when you talk about -- i went to nevada, i went to colorado, to see the get out the vote effort, the obama team, and it was in social media, even in the last hours of this election, there were californians on the phones, getting e-mails from the campaign, making phone calls with touch screen, i mean, this is beyond what anyone had ever seen and the republicans were just washed out when -- >> in 2008, the turnout was not an anomaly. they got the turnout again. they were able to get everybody out. >> belva: jill, you were with the old guy that got a few mir kms, too. what was the passage of proposition 30 mean to educators and children? >> well, in california, that sound you heard was the collective sigh of relief of 400,000 teachers on election night, that they are not going to have these trigger cuts. and jerry brown pushed that through. it did not look good prior to election day, but i will say, in california, the unions, like in some other states, made a big difference for the democrats and -- >> the youth vote made a huge differences. >> the parents were out, teachers were out. th